"Now listen - the only reason I came back to this...craphouse...is to find out who did it - "
Carter - a man of few words- a man of decisive action...
Michael Caine's finest hour. Get Carter. 1971
The Ghoul. 1975. A young John Hurt.
Gef said: Michael Caine's finest hour. Get Carter. 1971
The average American's knowledge of Get Carter: absolutely none.
Another cult classic: You Can't Stop the Music. The Village People! Bruce Jenner! Valerie Perrine! Steve Guttenberg! (Or maybe that should be "Steve Guttenberg?")
It's almost unimaginably great. And by "great" I mean "terrible." But I also mean "great."
Taste The Blood Of Dracula (1970): "If you shock easily - stay away...Prepare yourself for the greatest shock of all - "
genlob said: working for a thinly disguised Ronny Kray, thinly disguised as Richard Burton.
Sounds good. Burton's lead role as Vic Dakin in Villain (1971) is supposed to have been based on Ronnie Kray:
Nice suits, nasty film.
...as was Johnny Shannon's Harry Flowers (see 0:10-2:26)
"...small businesses in this day and age - it's against nature..."
Note John Bindon cameo at 1:36. Now he was an odd one, more villain than actor.
Shannon wasn't an actual villain but he was certainly one of the chaps - boxer, bookie, printer etc:
"Johnny Shannon: I worked in a betting shop. I also looked after a couple of boxers. Tommy Gibbons, who ran the Thomas-à-Becket on the Old Kent Road, rang me to say he'd got some film guys that wanted someone to meet up with this actor. My [role] was simply to take Jimmy round south London to meet some of the 'chaps'. After a while, he suggested there might be a part for me."
"Donald Cammell: There was some suggestion that the Krays would be hired for technical assistance -- an idea which was aborted due to their unavoidable absence."
Lots of almost subliminal (counter-)cultural references in the film: Burroughs, Borges, Francis Bacon.
Evan said: It's almost unimaginably great. And by "great" I mean "terrible." But I also mean "great."
Witchfinder General (1968). "He'll hang, burn and mutilate you. He's the... Witchfinder General!" One of Vincent Price's finest roles.
Has been oddly but accurately described as an 'English Western', with its shots of horsemen galloping urgently through the East Anglian countryside.
Note cameo role for the great British character actor Wilfred Brambell (old man Steptoe) at 1:36
"When the grave of the Devil is disturbed by the plough, the Satanic essence of evil wreaks violent and revolting revenge..." What more could you ask for?
Blood on Satan's Claw (1970)
"But it weren't human sir - there were fur!"
Gasp at the 'Devil's skin'!
Be amazed at Lina Hayden's ever-growing eyebrows!
Wikipedia: "In his 2010 BBC documentary series A History of Horror, writer and actor Mark Gatiss referred to the film as a prime example of a short-lived sub-genre he called "folk horror", grouping it with 1968's Witchfinder General and 1973's The Wicker Man"
Evan said: The average American's knowledge of Get Carter: absolutely none
I've got a long list of classic Brit-cult on my "to do" list at this point: Get Carter, The Sweeney, The Bill, If . . . , Alfie (the original), The Servant, Withnail and I, and so forth and so on.
Tried one of the Carry On movies once, but the humor just doesn't translate.
Although from the above (as suggested by genlob) I'm thinking that Performance and Get Carter are necessary to have any meaningful grasp of the last League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Which is another reason why I'm getting very bored with the title. Not very accessible to the average American. Or even those of us who are moderately -- but not obsessively -- into British pop culture.
Evan said: Tried one of the Carry On movies once, but the humor just doesn't translate.
Evan said: Not very accessible to the average American. Or even those of us who are moderately -- but not obsessively -- into British pop culture.
Wondering if there are any US equivalents - 'cult' US films which are well-known there, but not in the UK? Are Roger Corman films well-regarded in the US - they seem to be comparable to some of the low-budget shocker/horror films posted above. On the other hand, Corman's work is arguably well-known here amongst UK cineastes.
PS Have added The Warriors to my DVD rental list...
@Gef. There's at least 4 versions of Ronnie Kray in The League of.
@Evan. Gazillions of references. Sometimes Moore can seem a bit too clever for his own good, although I do like his inclusion of The Atlantis Bookshop and On The Buses.
Talking of Carry Ons, I'm a big fan of Cleo, Up the Khyber and Up the Jungle "Night draws on, you know." "Ah, very sensible of you to bring a pair, Lady Bagley."
A film I never tire of watching is Arthur Penn's Little Big Man. A shaggy dog story that sees 121 year old Dustin Hoffman as Pioneer settler, Cheyenne warrior, Born Again Christian, Snake Oil salesman, gunfighter, bum, and muleskinner.
Corman films are pretty well known in the U.S. among aficionados.
Hmm. Not sure what is or isn't well-known cult film in the U.K.
Blacksploitation films? Kung fu movies? Russ Meyers? John Waters? Ed Wood?
How about Repo Man?
Or Dazed and Confused, which reflects a particularly American 70s subculture?
Or Heathers? Hard to overstate its influence on American hipsters of a certain generation.
Or Fast Times at Ridgemont High?
Starring almost everyone who ever became famous.
Hard to overstate the influence of the Phoebe Cates scene on certain people of a certain generation.
grant said: It occurs to me that British viewers might not even know who Paul Lynde is....
Who is Paul Lynde?!
LOVED Repo Man BTW. Have seen it several times. "Suppose you're thinking of a plate of shrimp - suddenly somebody will say 'shrimp' or 'plate'..." Great US punk soundtrack too.
Talking of which, did UK punk/New Wave films get much exposure in the US? Breaking Glass, Rude Boy, Great Rock n Roll Swindle...?
genlob said: The follow up to If.. was a strange one. McDowell's character goes on a surreal odyssey across Britain and includes this scene that proper freaked me out as an impressionable young teen.
Evan said: Or Dazed and Confused, which reflects a particularly American 70s subculture?
Paul Lynde was a witty, more-or-less out gay celebrity in the U.S. in the 1970s. Very well-loved.
Probably best known as the center square (and thus the most called-on person) on the U.S. gameshow Hollywood Squares. Also the voice of Templeton the rat in Charlotte's Web.
And speaking of cult classics, here's part of his 1976 Halloween Special:
I've seen Swindle. None of the others.
Did the John Hughes high school movies register in the U.K.?
Sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club, Weird Science, Pretty in Pink, Ferris Bueller, and Some Kind of Wonderful.
They were extremely popular in the U.S. in the 1980s (and therefore not very cultish), but very focused on a distinctly U.S. high school experience.
Mad Monster Party was Rankin-Bass, like the Rudolf TV specials.
The up-and-coming young director Michael Reeves sadly died aged 25, having only made two films. One was the above-mentioned Witchfinder General, and the other was the genuinely odd The Sorcerers (1967):
Boris Karloff as one half of a weird old couple who wish to participate, vicariously, in the permissive lifestyles of young Swinging Londoners. So, naturally, they construct a mind-bending device in their flat, which allows them to enter and control the minds of their groovy victim, Ian Ogilvy...
grant said: Anyway, he was kind of campy and lovable and larger than life. I suppose he was more of a TV guy than a movie guy, but his career was pretty long.
grant said: wonder if cult films are still being made today (however "cult" is made).
How about The Ring (Japanese 1998 version)? Or The Blair Witch Project? Or Trollhunter? But they all did rather well at the box office.
So - does a film only qualify for 'cult' status if it does badly at the box office, but is rediscovered, later, by hip afficionados? At the time, Performance bombed, IIRC. Wicker Man didn't do that well either.
grant said: I think most of the hallmarks of "cult" have been absorbed by the mainstream. Tarantino basically makes "cult" films but is wildly successful.
The makers of Rocky Horror Picture Show tried to manufacture a cult film. It was a failure at its time, and it's probably still a failure, but I like it anyway.
Here's the opening sequence:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luWYDGLgU9I&feature=related
I fail at linking videos today.
Needs more Kung Fu.
Five Deadly Venoms:
Eight Diagram Pole Fighter:
Master of the Flying Guillotine:
And not exactly Kung Fu, but Bruce Lee vs. Chuck Norris in Way of the Dragon:
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